| SOTW:
Episode #70- Forged Steele |
by
Xenos1981 (Feb 22, 2008) |
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*smacking my lips*
Forged Steele, ladies!!! A really great episode!!! Can't wait to read your
thoughts!
Xenos
Mamma Mia!!! Pierce Brosnan...Proof
that God loves us and wants us to be happy! |
by
everglade68 |
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| Wow episode #70,
I cannot believe it. By the middle of June we will be done with Season
Four. And it will takes us what, 20 minutes to write that Season Five sucked.
It is going to be a long, hot summer.
Isabel
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by
auroracat-1 |
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| We could make
up our own ending to the series or read the fan fiction! Then we go back
to season 1 and start all over again! We have some fresh blood on the board
so hopefully get some great comments! |
by
sugarjilly |
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Isabel!! ROFL!
Not a bad idea to go back and make
up our own ending auroracat!
Can't wait to review the kiss at
the court house!! ohh loved that! and what...is this the episode with Mr.
Steele in his briefs!!! Calm down Xenos!! I know what you're thinking.
Jilly |
by
MickeyBoggs |
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Forged Steele.
Another strong episode from Rick Mittleman that helped Season Four get
off to its promising start. The return of Norman Keyes. The City Hall scene.
And Mr. Steele in his tighty-whiteys!
Memorable Stuff
- Nice mystery from the very beginning.
Good idea to only let the audience know what Mr. Steele knows, at least
at first, to keep us guessing.
- LOL at the giant paintings Cranston
uses to decorate the office
- Laura attacking Cranston after
he's fired Mildred. And then Cranston planning to fire Laura.
- Mildred bringing romance novels
to Mr. Steele in jail!
- James Tolkan is really just very
good. Norman is so nasty!
- You'd think by now Keyes would
know better than to turn his back on Mr. Steele's associates. First Laura
smacks him on the head with the phone in "Diced Steele" and now Mildred
does
- I must say the mystery in this
one was excellent. I never figured out who it was until they showed up
at the airport.
Character Development
- After the hard time he gives Laura
when she goes off on a case without him, Mr. Steele should know better
than to go off without her
- Nice to see it doesn't take much
to convince that Laura that Mr. Steele was being set up.
- Mildred finally gets to do some
B&E with Mr. Steele and she does a great job setting up Keyes.
- The whole City Hall scene. Sigh.
I like the way Mr. Steele pressed the issue without accusing or yelling
at Laura. I'm glad she finally confessed her fear that he might be setting
her up. (I must say, it never occurred to me until she brought it up. Guess
that's why she's the detective!) They finally have a meaningful conversation
and you can just feel the relief of both of them when they finally hug.
Sweet kiss too.
Favorite lines
L: After all we've been through together,
do you really think I'd believe that you would stake Remington Steele Investigations,
the major accomplishment of my life, the product of six years of hard work,
as collateral in a card game? Would I ever think that you would be that
reckless, that foolhardy, that stupid?
R: Do I have to answer?
L: Well, while Reuben tries to find
a legal means to stop Cranston from turning our office into an adjunct
of the scandal sheets, we have to figure out who's behind it, how they
did it and why.
R: Laura, you're being remarkably
calm about all this.
L: Mr. Steele, when Cranston entered
my life yesterday, I had one of two choices. I could believe in you and
know there's a way out of this. Or, I could believe him. In which case,
I would have had to hunt you down, tear your heart out and scatter it to
the four winds before jumping off the nearest available building myself.
R: Good choice, eh?
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M: (re: Cranston) Holy cow, he's
another you! Kinda, a...FORMER you.
R: Mildred, why do I get the feeling
you're not entirely behind me on this on?
M: I'm behind you.
R: Yes, and ready to shove at the
next cliff, it appears.
M: OK, Chief, here it is. I've seen
the kind of trouble you've put Miss Holt through. And I have watched her
defend you when 99 out of 100 women wouldn't. And, well, I just hope you're
worth it.
R: So do I.
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M: Boy, if you can't trust wimp
lawyers anymore, who can you trust?
Hair & Clothing
- Mr. Steele in his undies. (Calm
down Xenos!)
- Even after he's been missing for
36 hours, he looks pretty darn good in a slightly rumpled suit, un-perfectly
coiffed hair and 2 days' growth of beard.
- I'm not crazy about the cut of
the suit (it's pretty 80s) but once again, Laura looks good in red.
- Mr. Steele, all in black. Nice!
- It's nothing special, but the
teal & black looks good on Laura.
Goofs, Headscratchers & Misc
- I thought Mr. Steele never carried
cash because it was too bulky? He's sure got quite the walletful.
- Where are Mr. Steele's scars from
that fence in London?
- Where did Mr. Steele get the change
of clothes at City Hall? |
by
auroracat-1 |
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| As for the clothes
at city hall. I always assumed Laura sent them with the "wimp lawyer". |
by
everglade68 |
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What I want to
know is how many times Xenos has seen the scene of PB in his
briefs underwear? I bet she lost
count, eh?
If you see this scene carefully you
will noticed that Pierce has a small scar on his upper left arm. It looks
like one caused by the smallpox vaccine. I know it well, as I was vaccinated
at school and never forgot the experience. This vaccination is not given
as a shot. A needle is used to prick the skin a number of times and it
was pretty painful.
Isabel |
by
auroracat-1 |
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| I noticed the
scar too!. In one of my favorite books "Outlander" by Diana Gabaldon that
vaccination scar is a key piece of evidence. BTW I highly recommend the
"Outlander" series of books. |
by
sugarjilly |
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| Isabel, well that
was quite an observation!!! I remembered after the episode was done to
look for the scar....I guess..ummm...I was looking at other things! :)
Totally forgot about the vacine scar...but I seen it when I watched it
again...yep it's there alright!
What a way to start...Mr. Steele
in his blue suit showing off those gorgeous blue eyes and then...to his
briefs...oh my!! How awesome is that!!
Here we go again....We don't see
as much air time with scenes of L and R together. Did these guys say hey...Through
S4, we're just not going to let L and R have as many scenes together!?
What's up with that?
Confused by the fist scene...can
anymore explain to me why Mr. Steele seems so ready and willing to be wooed
by the so called B. J. Sinclair? He even gets a look like...oh i hope laura
don't find out...at the end of that whole scene. A little confusing to
me. Please someone hlep clear this up for with some suggestions!!
Just loved both car scenes!! Laura
is still on board with her belief in Mr. Steele and I just love that whole
dialog between them.
OH!!! Loved Mr. Steele in the grey
suit and did you see those BLUE EYES!!!! WOW!!
The Icy calm line between Laura and
Remington...LOL R starts it and then Mr. Steele really must say it a number
of times to Miss Holt to calm her down when Mildred is let go!!! HA!! Loved
it!
OH MY!!! Did I say how great PB looks
in black and did you see those BLUE EYES?!!!!!! Everything that PB is wearing
in this episode just seems to bring out those blues eyes!! Love it!
Just love the scene with Mildred
and Remington staking out Crandon's place...Loved Mildred's comments about
Mr. Steele's past!! Great scene between the two of them. Again...where's
all the scenes with Laura and Remington. Humm...me thinks there is more
to this that meets the eye!!
Love how the writers incorporate
the whole plan to have Vilagence Insurance pay for bail. Really very good!
OKAY here we go!!! Finally a relationship
building scene!!! YES!! This scene was wonderful outside the courthouse.
I would have loved to have seen more scenes like this (buliding there relationship,
talking about their insecurities and then working them out to become even
more closer) in the fourth season, but I think it kind of fizzles in that
respect.
Loved how the writers put in the
phone scene from Diced Steele using Mildred in the plan too!!! And also,
the writers are consistent about what Mr. Steele doesn't like...squid...from
You're Steele The One For Me.
I love the scene at the airport with
the newspapers. Too funny! Just loved when L and R find out who did it.
I really liked this episode a lot
for a lot of reasons. There is a development in Laura and Remington's relationship,
Steele looked great!! I mean really more so than usual and so did Laura,
the writers used some things from other episodes (squid, phone bit), and
I liked the whole storyline. Liked how we got to see Keyes again.
Jilly |
by
Xenos1981 |
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| Will be re-watching
this awesome episode tonight after I finish work. (MR. STEELE IN HIS UNDIES!!!
OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, O...M...G!!!) But...
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Confused by the first scene...can
anymore explain to me why Mr. Steele seems so ready and willing to be wooed
by the so called B.J. Sinclair?
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Um...maybe because of her name.
Hey...It HAS been a long time, folks!!! (Sorry, Jilly!)
I'm really enjoying all the posts
so far!!! Keep 'em comin'!!! And, Isabel...Never noticed the scar. Not
really looking at his arm, honey. I'll try to pry my eyes away from other
areas and take a look.
XXXenos
Mamma Mia!!! Pierce Brosnan...Proof
that God loves us and wants us to be happy! |
by
merryl |
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| LOL, Xenos - it
took me a while to figure out what you meant! I guess I'm still pretty
naive (as my DH tells me all the time!). I'm sure you guys will help with
my education and suitably corrupt me :-) (Do you think this was a deliberate
double entendre on the part of the writers? From the commentary on some
of the other episodes I know that "Millicent Fairbush" was - how did THAT
get past the censors? *naughty, naughty, naughty*, LOL)
I really liked Forged Steele - very,
very good mystery - kept us guessing all the way through!!! I enjoyed the
concept of the (ex) conman being conned - although I did feel sorry for
him. Pierce does the outraged and totally confused look so well. And Norman
Keyes is just so jubilantly nasty!
Also some good progression in their
relationship. I loved, loved, loved the fact that Laura actually believed
and supported our Mr Steele - what a turnaround from seasons 1 and 2! And
the court house scene - some honesty and some genuine expression of feelings
from both of them. Only slight jar was when they were walking back to the
car - arm in arm and then a sudden separation. I suppose Laura went back
into "business" mode (uggghhh!!!!)
And Mildred in her black breaking-in
clothes - loved this!!! She had some good moments in this episode, really
part of the team.
Loved the "icy calm" moments and
Laura having to be physically removed from Cranston. Shades of "Diced Steele"
and glimpses of her "absurdly passionate" (hidden) nature! They should
have done more of this kind of thing...
Loved the fact that they "USED the
phone" on Keyes again! You'd think he'd know by now :-)
Oh, almost forgot (not!) we get to
see Mr Steele in his undies... He looked pretty good, don't you think?
*nudge, nudge, wink, wink* (No, I didn't see his vaccination scar ;-)
Someone mentioned him seeming happy
to go off with BJ Sinclair without Laura. I think he was just flattered
by her attention (no not, in that way, Xenos!). The poor guy has lived
like a monk for the past 3.5 years and was probably wondering if he'd "lost
his touch"... having a beautiful lady flirting with him probably did wonders
for his ego. I must admit to having a "moment" myself, though, when the
next scene was the thrashing around under the covers scene - I had a second
or two of doubt (so I'm as guilty as Laura :-). Was very relieved that
it was only Mr Steele... by himself...
Although the tag scene was OK - supposed
to be funny, I know, but not really my sense of humour, I really felt there
needed to be some resolution in terms of the relationship - some acknowledgement
that they'd made progress - a hug, a kiss, "a gentle touch, a soft caress"...
*sigh*
I found a nice fanfic fill-in story
from Debra Talley that explores Laura's feelings during the coiuple of
days Mr Steele disappears:
http://www.mindspring.com/~dtalley/steadfast.html
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by
sugarjilly |
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| Merryl,
That was me with the remark about
the B.J. Sinclair scene. You make a good point. It would make Mr. Steele
feel like he still had it! Although, I think he knew he still had it because
he's had too many womem look at him in the past 4 years. I think he knows
he still has it, but a guy can never get enough I guess. LOL Thanks for
giving your suggestion.
Jilly |
by
dlxauburn |
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Forged Steele
Episode #70
I truly had forgotten just how much
I enjoyed this episode. Yes Xenos, the entire episode, not just the SpongeSteele
Wish-they-were-tighter-underpants scene. The audience knows by now that
Mr.Steele wouldn't gamble away the agency, even if intoxicated, medicated
and stripped to his undies! I wonder which one of the guest stars was assigned
that task before the brutually cruel editor's red pen axed that scene?
Shoot, my notes are all blurry from the drool... oh well better rewatch
this episode again. Note to self: Need water proof ink pens.
So we all assume he's been set up,
but of course by now we are expecting Mt. Holt to erupt when she sees him
right? But no, what do we get instead.... a trusting Laura, a worried Laura,
a Laura who might be involved romantically with a man she's known for over
three years. It's about bloody time! Did the male writers on staff finally
solicit a women's opinion about relationship advice or did a bit of fan
fic sneek through into their office and they "lifted" a bit? Afterall,
people get desperate when on deadline and out for two hour martini lunches!
Okay, so we all know that Cranston's
the bad guy and our fabulously coiffed and dressed duo will be figuring
this out shortly. I mean the episode is titled "Forged Steele", he didn't
sign it. Great, lots of time for romance just as soon as they wrap this
up! Handwriting expert? Didn't you learn anything from the Mystery Writer's
Guild case?? They don't know crap! Alright, for the sake of more mystery,
chase a few more leads. But then I'm serious.... more, much more romance....
Shoot, I forgot they need to get
more time for Mildred on screen, before Doris flat out strangles Michael
Gleason. So she get's a fabulous scene with Steele in Cranston's condo.
Typical Mildred, a straight shooter right between the eyes. Michael must
have really been scared that week, cause she also gets to hoodwink Keyes
in the cafeteria and bonk him on the head with the phone. Shades of last
weeks "Hatpin Millie" sticking it to Steele's new nemesis. (BTW, was this
scene shot in the NBC commissary?)
Great twist in the plot when Steele
shows up and everything is back to normal. Great look on PB's face when
the lights come up in the office below. You can see he's figured it out
now, the real con, the true prize for all of Cranston's work at deceiving
them. Six million in unset diamonds.
Steele in jail, no he's too pretty!
I know why Laura didn't visit, she was afraid he get more whistles than
her!!! But finally.... here comes the pay off. The jailhouse pick up (Been
there, done that!You know who you are!) of Mr.Steele by Laura. This is
unequivocally, the best emotionally intimate and honest scene between the
two of them for the entire series. Well written and well played by both
SZ and PB. Let's all just be thankful that since Mildred is riding with
Keyes, she wasn't able to interupt them!!!!
The resturant scene with shades of
Steele Trying is worth a giggle under the breath. But the funniest is the
exit from the resturant with the police hot on their heels and they all
stop to review the food and leave a tip! What an inspired bit of comedy!
The mystery really heats up when
Cranston, the guy we all decided was the bad guy, gets whacked and his
girlfriend, the ever flirtacious BJ Sinclair / Kristy McCall, becomes the
catch of the day, and not in a nice kind of dirty way! So who's left? I
mean we are out of bad guys!!! Right??? Not so fast...the wimp lawyer and
equally airheaded girlfriend set this all up?
I doubt it. I think Cranston set
it up, needing the lawyers help, but Reuben is desperate enough to take
advantage of the opportunity. Or maybe Debbie didn't trust Cranston not
to dump her for the classier BJ Sinclair, and coaxed Reuben to kill them
both. Either way we never really know whose idea it was orginally.
Finally, the tag scene, while a bit
more romance would have been better, Steele get's the best one line in
the episode - "The curve of his lip really points out the man's inner humanity."
This works to set up Keyes as future pain in the side for the Steele Agency.I
believe this might be my #2 episode of the series, just behind Vintage. |
by
picac |
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Positive attention
is always flattering and Mr Steele is nothing if not a charming flirt but
I think the main reason is that it's part of his job. It's part of being
the frontman of the agency. He's supposed to woo the clients male and female
(get your mind out of the gutter Xenos!) in a professional way even if
that means socializing. If that means talking football (which he knows
nothing about), letting himself being insulted because he's not American
or letting a client flirt that's just part of the game and something he's
far more willing and adept at than Laura. Think of it as Steele's answer
to legwork. ;) My favorite bit of this is when the client mentions that
Laura would be sympathetic and he turns his head away and makes a face
knowing damn well she wouldn't. LOL
And a cut and paste from Steelewatchers
The entire idea that he would ever
have committed this theft is so insulting to his intelligence, gifts and
skills as a thief that I'm surprised he didn't leave in a huff. :D
That Steele would set all that up
just to break into some rinky dink place downstairs from his office (that
he could have cracked with far more ease and left far more easily) to steal
6 measly million dollars in diamonds (he's given up finders fees bigger
than that to stay as Steele not to mention numerous other opportunities
of more money) that he then partially hides in the CHEESE in his apt as
he slowly very slowly plans his escape to leave her behind ....come on!
To heap upon this galling turn of
events he has once adoring Mildred making snarky remarks and then injury
to insult bringing him bodice rippers in prison, Fred turning into a "toady"
for Cranston and some hussy flaunting his ID bracelet (love how he irately
and swiftly snatches it off her wrist). He'd have been better of staying
unconscious in bed.
Oh did I mention that I love this
episode? :D
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by
everglade68 |
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| Ace, glad to see
you posting again in SOTW. It has been a while.
Isabel |
by
sugarjilly |
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| Ace!!! You're
back!!
I like how you put that little socializing
endeaver between Mr. Steele and B.J. Sinclair. Thanks for you input. Enjoyed
it very much! He is a charming flirt isn't he? :) He can charm me anytime!!!
Oh, and I noticed the little face
at the end of that scene too!! Great! Makes much more sense now with your
comment Ace.
Jilly |
by
auroracat-1 |
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| Regarding the
scene in the car w/ BJ Sinclair - I always saw it as Mr. Steele getting
a chance to be the "Head of the Agency" and be a detective on his own so
to speak. In my mind that's why he was enjoying himself so much and of
course a little flirting is always fun!
You think by that time he would have
learned about working without backup!
Also, not mentioned is the fact that
Laura trusted him enough to send him to the initial client meeting without
her (even if she didn't know the reason for the solo interview request). |
by
picac |
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| Steele has been
seeing and interviewing clients from the first season, with or without
Laura's permission. It's part of his role. This isn't much different than
Laura asking him to meet with and woo Emory in Steele Waters, outside of
the office and without her. He's not investigating a case so he doesn't
require backup, he's meeting a client. Sure it might be potentially dangerous
but it's not as if he couldn't be assaulted in his own office by potential
clients or kidnapped in a variety of locations (he has been both) or hasn't
been assaulted in the presence of Laura while working on a case. I'm sure
he goes on many meetings without Laura whether they're dinner meetings,
hobnobbing at the latest Commissioner's dinner (doodling on his napkin)
or schmoozing blue haired old ladies (and one sultry blonde) at meetings
to Save The Bald Eagle. ;) |
by
auroracat-1 |
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| I feel this one
was different in that it was an initial potential client interview, not
a publicity opportunity. My impression is that previous to this episode
Laura prefers to be in on the FIRST meeting with any prospective clients.
In Steele Waters Laura had already met with Arnock and I believe the plan
was for them to meet him together.
Of course this is just my personal
opinion:)
Yes, I agree he can and has been
assaulted with and without Laura in any number of locations. |
by
picac |
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| Laura may prefer
it but he's done it alone before in first meetings and even in My Fair
Steele where she's there already and wants to be there she has to let him
go up alone. It's not out of the ordinary or a new thing for Steele. |
by
auroracat-1 |
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| Don't want to
pick an argument, but besides My Fair Steele (where she didn't know it
was going to be an issue) when, in other episodes prior to this one, did
Mr. Steele meet a prospective client alone for the initial consultation.
This meeting being with Laura's blessing and not a result of circumstance,
i.e. when he would get to the office before her. (1st season. - Meech,
but then again the agency was already working that case when Mr. Steele
met ole Meech.)
I am racking my brains and I can't
come up with one. I can come up with them in the horrid 5th season.
My point being, as best as I can
remember, this is the first instance of Laura actually "blessing" such
an occasion and sending him out without her to meet a prospective client
for the 1st time. |
by
picac |
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| There aren't even
many episode where Laura sees a client first or alone, often they're together
or they start in the midst of a case and often they don't even have a client
they just fall into a case. In My Fair Steele she doesn't have to
accept the client, they could just leave as Steele suggests. So she trusts
him enough early in the 2nd season to see a client first and alone. She's
angry about the sexism but she's not upset thinking he can't handle it
without her or that she must be there in the first place as she in in say
Hearts when he gets to speak to Malcolm first in depth about the
case. In Have I Got a Steele for You Laura isn't upset or at all
surprised he spoke to a client first or accepted her case but that he went
out to investigate alone (and only really because he happened to get hurt
and which had nothing to do with the actual case) or Steele Trying
(even though it's a phony client) and in Chips Steele is the one
on the tennis court discussing Ms Dalrymple retaining the agency which
looked like a primary preliminary meeting to me. |
by
auroracat-1 |
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Good points! Forgot
about Ms. Dalrymple:) et al
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