| SOTW:
Episode #69- Grappling Steele |
by
Xenos1981 (Feb 15, 2008) |
|
Another good one
for romance...Grappling Steele, ladies!!! Very apropos considering it was
just Valentine's day! Enjoy and post...
Xenos
Mamma Mia!!! Pierce Brosnan...Proof
that God loves us and wants us to be happy! |
by
sugarjilly |
|
| Well, I guess
I will be the first one to post on this week's SOTW!
I guess you could say that this episode
kept you guessing just like Steele Blushing. Is this the trend for S4 episodes?
No sooner has Laura have it all figured out (the first time) that we find
out it wasn't Mary, then it wasn't Whitney's manager, then it wasn't Dangerous
Darryl, and it wasn't Whitney...who's left but Al!! and who would have
thought of Al? I'll be honest, I didn't when I seen this episode the first
time. I guess that's why we needed that darn interruption from Mildred
in one of my favorite scenes from this episode to get Laura's detective
spark going again. Darn Mildred!! And just when R and L are both ready
to move to the next step!!
I just love the opening scene with
Mildred and Laura!!! It's so apparent that Mildred loves being there and
that Laura is tolerating the whole experience right up to and after the
point Mildred starts embarrassing Laura by standing up and yelling!! HA!!
Mildred is so great in this episode I might add!!
I think Laura says it so nicely when
she finds out about "Hat Pin Millie" and that she was just a pond in Mildred's
game....L: "Night out for the girls, eh?" and all Mildred can do is sit
there and eat her popcorn nervously. But in the end this whole deception
pays off cause Crunch ends up getting help from RSI..well, should I say
Laura!
Loved the whole office scene and
the whole "I'm the boss" thing! LOL Mildred doesn't help either! LOL It
was all too funny. I think this is the first time that this type of scene
comes up and it's very refreshing to see this between the three of them!
Loved the Brown suit on Mr. Steele
and the black blazer/beige skirt outfit on Laura.
Is it just me or did you all notice
that RS and LH are not in as many scenes together as they were in the early
episodes....early meaning S1 and S2!!!?
I think Mary is something out of
psycho 2! LH to the rescue!
I thought that PB was very funny
as the gay Filter Pure Man...how about the earring and his WoWaa! (sorry,
I don't know how to do that phonetically! but you all know what I'm talking
about). Loved when RS throws the Waterford crystal into the fireplace too!!
LOL
R: "I thought it was a ritual."
Love the whole scene about hype on
the professional and personal level! and the kiss of course and there goes
Mildred again, Interrupting!!
Love, love, love!!!! the candlelight/dinner/dance
scene in R's apartment! Both subjects are willing to move to the next step...NO!!!
not Mildred again!!! yep!!
I just love how Mildred takes over
the role of Laura in this scene..cause they surely aren't doing anything...R
and L both had something else on their minds that night!
Okay...the whole Star Spangled Banner
scene...
R: "I thought the Star Spangled
Banner was your National Anthem?"
L: "It is." beat "Spangled by a
star."
I TOTALLY AGREE!!!! YUCK!! It's
good to know that both R and L have better musical taste. :)
Loved the tag scene. This is one
of my favorite tag scenes. Love how Laura looks suggestively at R and she
says, "I'm learning Mr. Steele." and his answer "so you are, miss holt."
Just love it! The music fade was good too! This brings to mind of a movie's
ending music. but what movie?...could it be Gone With The Wind I'm thinking
of? That doesn't sound right..no definitely not! Well, maybe something
will come to mind soon. Anyone have any ideas what movie that tag scene
music sounds like? Oh, this is really going to bug me!
I don't think that I would have liked
this episode as much if, and I hate to say this, if all the kissing scenes
were taken out. I loved the dialog in all of these scenes and the kissing
really made it a nice ending to a great scene. Like the topping on the
cake so to speak.
Jilly
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by
MickeyBoggs |
|
| When I first started
re-watching season 4, I thought about skipping this episode. I mean, WRESTLING?
It seemed so, so...silly. Boy am I glad I decided to watch it anyway! I
just love Crunch - and I'd have missed the romantic dancing scene!
Memorable Stuff
- Mildred dragging Laura to a wrestling
match. I guess it's supposed to fit in with her more blue-collar side -
to go along with the bowling - but really, I have a hard time seeing Mildred
getting into it. Though maybe she does it just to look at large men exposing
a lot of skin!
- Crunch is such a cutie! He's charmed
Mildred (who else can get away with calling her "Millie"?) and he takes
care of his dad.
- Funny bit by PB of working with
plant (ivy?) when he stands up and it drapes on to his face.
- Our Mr. Steele as Harley Ferguson,
Filter Pure deliveryman! Oh wow!
- Laura dragging the big red glasses
out of storage and using them on the unsuspecting director.
- Mr. Steele fretting that the meal
he ordered - which sounds a lot like what he ordered at Marty's - will
once again be interrupted.
- Love, love, love the dance scene.
We really must break Mildred of her nasty habit of interrupting them!
- Sweet tag scene!
Character Development
- Mr. Steele baiting Laura with the
"partnership" vs. "my agency" bit. Then asking if she's willing to risk
"his good name". I like that instead of arguing about it, they challenge
each other in a playful way.
- LOVE how Laura tells Mr. Steele
not to answer the door and asking Mildred if her interruption couldn't
have waited until the next morning and on company time. She was definitely
not thinking about work for once!
- When Mildred tells Mr. Steele
she "went home and did what you did", I like the pause before he says "I
doubt that very much, Mildred", there's a great moment where Laura gives
him a look. It lends credence to the theory that they'd already "experienced
the ultimate moment".
Favorite lines
M: That Dangerous Darryl is some
hunk! WOOF! (LOL!)
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M: I had to go to the boss for a
second opinion.
R: The boss has spoken, Mildred.
L: She means me.
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Shelby: I resent the insinuation,
Mr. Steele. I love wrestling too much to make a travesty out of it. (That's
right, wrestling can do that all by itself. It doesn't need any help!)
Hair & Clothing
- That teal sweater does excellent
things for Crunch. Or maybe it's the other way around
- Mildred's green outfit is better
looking than a lot of the shapeless things we've seen her in.
- Crunch's best costumes: the little
bitty towel and the red trunks. I do like a bit of meat with my potatoes!
- I wasn't crazy about Laura's hair
at the beginning or as the directing intern.
- I like Laura's teal sweater and
her copper suit with the yellow blouse
- Mr. Steele's suit (the one with
the braces) is nice and of course he looks great in the leather jacket
- The blue & white shirt Laura
wears in the tag scene - she wears it often in the fourth season - but
I do like it. Her hair looks great in that scene too.
Goofs, Headscratchers & Misc
- This is Adele Rosse's (Mary) fourth,
and biggest, role in the series.
- Boyd Gaines (Todd Myerson) is
a 3-time Tony winner
- Lawrence Tierney (Al Molinski)
was quite the tough guy in real life. A few of his off-stage incidents
are in his Wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Tierney
- Whitney is the star of the soap
opera "Rage to Live". Her portrayer, Kim Ullrich, was on the soap opera
"Passions"
- When watched in slow motion, the
ring ropes snap before Crunch ever hits them
- How the whole dance scene SHOULD
have ended: http://steeleinlove.com/grapplingredux.html |
by
dlxauburn |
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| Grappling Steele,
episode 69! Are you kiddin' me? That's just too easy to comment on.
After 4 episodes into Season 4, I
can say the best aspect of this season is the wardrobe. All the leads,
especially Mildred, get significantly better attire. I mean Mildred's wardrobe
from Seasons 2 and 3 were, hopefully, burned, and the ashes tossed into
the ocean to prevent any ugly clothes from reprouting in her closet. Laura
is so much more successfully and professionally attired. Finally she is
as stylish as Mr. Steele has been in previous seasons.
I have only watched this episode
one other time and was extemely disappointed with the overall effort. Rick
Mittleman's episode is in the bottom three of the series for me. I think
this episode gives hope to every fanfic writer. Because if this is where
the bar is set, I could write an episode (even though it would never get
past the censor!). Afterall, you can't see bad spelling on TV! The amount
of distraction in the mystery confuses me horribly and makes Steele and
Holt look almost incompetent. Just who isn't trying to kill somebody? The
best line of humor in the episode was delivered in the "Filter Pure" scene
by Darrell: "...loud mouth bitty jabbing your derriere with a hatpin."
Go Hatpin Millie! But the whole scene between Darrell and Harley was just
flat and rather boring. The other scene I take issue with is after the
championship match where Steele pronounces the ropes were cut. Laura responds:
"Are you sure?" Three padded cables just happen to break in the same exact
spot. It demeans her intelligence severely.
In reading Mickey's post, I assume
she was rooting as loudly as me and Xenos for a safety pin failure on Crunch's
towel. But no, they made sure Mickey's "meat and potatoes" stayed in the
kitchen!
Finally, the three scenes that make
this episode worth enduring are the ones that get put in alot of great
music videos. So is there really a need to ever watch this episode again?
I think not! But in the interest of discussion and debate I'll try to analyze
the heck out of each one.
First up, Steele and Laura getting
caught by Mildred in the office. This one seems off to me. Like here's
our required exposition to move the story along and by the way, since the
episode's running a bit short, how about a little interoffice romance.
Seemed like Steele used to always have romance first and foremost on his
mind, even while discussing a case back and forth. Generally, Pierce did
this with a look, or some other type of suggestive body language. He just
seemed uninterested here until he had no choice. Off day, I guess.
The best scene is the dinner and
dancing in his apartment. I like the dialogue here: L: "Pleased?" R: "Case
closed. You in my arms. What more could I ask for?" I believe Xenos has
that list at your disposal sir! Although for quite a bit of the kissing
all we get is the back of Laura's head. What is up with that editing? And
a side note but the French braid isn't the right style for this scene.
It makes her look hard, less alluring than her earlier styles. When Mildred
interupts with her big deduction, the disappointment from both Steele and
Laura is finally believable of an adult romantic relationship. Clearly
both anticipated getting a bit of "grappling" done on their own. Next time
Steele, instruct the doorman better as to whom to let up late in the evening!!!
I mean Mildred was hardly being chased by a pack of wild dogs and had to
be let up!!!Perhaps your doorman is telling you he's not happy with the
amount your tipping lately?
Lastly, the tag scene is cute and
necessary for the movie per episode reference. Since the scene freezes
on the kiss, I'll just assume they have learned to lock the door or installed
an alarm on Mildred's desk chair to alert them when she's about to cause
Kissus Interuptus!
Thanks again to the video makers
who have now made this episode irrelevent to view in it's entirety.
|
by
Neneithel |
|
| I don't get the
appeal of Crunch at all, but then I've always preferred my men a bit more
cerebral. There's just a great big hole where his personality should be.
He's like a Ken doll come to life, but not as attractive.
A continuation of the dancing scene
was a recent challenge at Steele writing. Stephs_the_star came up with
this: http://community.livejournal.com/steelewriting/184435.html and this
is my version: http://community.livejournal.com/steelewriting/186103.html
I love the bit with the ivy. I added
it to a songvid recently and it always makes me smile. |
by
Xenos1981 |
|
| Ah, yes...Grappling
Steele! So filled with nice romantic moments...in between a story about
(gulp) a wrestler and a second-rate soap star!!! ("Rage To Live"...HA!!!)
Good grief!!! Where do I begin?! I guess at the beginning...
Let me just say that although I find
wrestling a completely inane and mind-numbing form of "entertainment" (and
I use that term loosely) with no redeeming value whatsoever, I find it
funny as hell that Mildred not only watches it but also attends matches
(or whatever they're called). And even funnier was seeing Laura in the
seats watching this tripe! Hat Pin Millie, eh? LOL!!!
Random Rambling: About Crunch...Sorry,
ladies, but a guy who looks like that -- all bulked up and waxed to an
inch of his life -- is usually A) trying to compensate for other "shortcomings"
if you catch my drift, or B) of the homosexual persuasion. Since he was
married and now dating an empty-headed bimbo, chances are it's "A"...Unless
he's beardin'.
Interesting how now that Mildred
knows about Mr. Steele, she goes to "the boss" (Laura) to plea her case.
(I'm trying to remember if she had done this before. I think she did, but
I'm blanking right now. Help, please!) Though it kinda annoys me, it makes
for a great little argument between Laura and Remington. And you all know
how much I love it when they bicker! Laura even works an "aversion to leg-work"
jab in there -- my favorite!!!
LOVE all the jabs Mr. Steele gets
in about Crunch -- whether it's about Crunch leaving footprints in the
carpet or his limited vocabulary. HA!!! Shades of our "snobby" Mr. Steele...The
one that in season one would have breakfast out on his balcony in a robe
and ascot with fresh cut flowers on the table...The one that regarding
monks' clothing said, "Well, if I had to wear one of these all the time
I wouldn't know what to say either." SO, so funny!!!
Next Random Rambling: Didn't know
whether to blame casting or the director for two major clunkers in this
episode. First, Mary. What was up with that?!?! Crunch's "pop" refers to
her as 'such a sweet girl'. HUH?!?! I know he's getting old...but it doesn't
make him dumb. Someone somewhere screwed up BIG TIME with this one. I just
couldn't picture Crunch and Mary as people who ran in the same circles,
let alone as a married couple. She was completely over-the-top and just
plain awful. Un-kudos to that chick! Go back to acting school, babe! The
second faux pas was Boyd Gaines as Todd Myerson. He was freakin' HORRIBLE!!
So wooden and stiff!!! Such a disappointment...Especially since I had a
brief schoolgirl crush on him when he played Valerie Bertinelli's husband
on "One Day At A Time". Now I'm curious to re-watch an episode or two of
"ODAAT" and see if he was as bad on there, too! Yikes!!!
Had to laugh at the romance between
Crunch and Whitney. Now THERE'S a match made in Hollywood Hell!!! I totally
bought it...It's like most Hollywood romances -- the brief coupling of
Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber. And good Lord, did she massacre the Star
Spangled Banner!!! Totally awesome!!! Two thumbs up!!!
I really liked that there were so
many people with motives to get rid of Crunch...The least of which was
Dangerous Darryl.
Interjection with Random Rambling
#3: O...M...G!!! With that mullet haircut and the thick mustache, Dangerous
Darryl looked like a 70s porn star! Auburn, do you remember seeing him?
Get out your video collection and let us know, would you? Thanks, babe!
Continuing on...Love how Mr. Steele
jumps to the conclusion that Dangerous Darryl is gay when Laura tells him
he used to own a flower shop...Which leads to one of the most cringeful
(yet freakin' hilarious) scenes in television history -- Mr. Steele's "Oh,
wow!" scene!!! OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, O...M...G!!! (And not in a good way!!!)
I always watch that scene through a slit in my fingers. *shuddering* Can't
say more...Too disturbing. Moving on...
Laura as an AFI intern -- BRILLIANT!!!
Another appearance of those red glasses. HA!
Loved how Mr. Steele made reservations
for two to celebrate the conclusion of the case only to have Laura put
the kibosh on it...
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"Laura don't do this to me. My stomach
is preparing for antipasto. . ."
"And Shelby was the intended victim
all along."
". . . linguine and clam sauce. .
."
"Now Whitney was supposedly in her
dressing room from eleven to two."
". . . a little veal. . . "
"Shelby was killed at one."
". . . Chianti. . . "
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...Shades of the Chinese restaurant
scene from "Steele Trying".
Then comes one of my favorite scenes...*sigh*...Remington
and Laura "celebrating" at his place. O...M...G!!! So romantic!!! Damn
Mildred for interrupting again!!! If I were Laura, I would've said, "Screw
whomever is at the door! Maybe if we jump in your bed and hide under the
covers no one will find us!!! Hurry!!!" But nooooooooooo!!! Mr. Steele
had to answer it! *shaking head in disbelief* Love Mildred's line, "I'm
telling you, when I left the arena something didn't sit right. So I went
home and I did what you did." Love Mr. Steele's line even more -- "I doubt
that very much Mildred." Just what DID Laura and Remington do?!?! THINK
of the possibilities!!! Oh-ho-ho, yeh-heh-hes!!!
Nice twist that Al Molinski was the
murder! Yikes!
And the end tag was absolutely exquisite!!!
"I'm learning, Mr. Steele." And then the kiss over the desk!!! OMG...How
sexy was THAT?!?! Which reminds me...Can you believe that I went through
an entire post without saying how HOT Pierce looked?!?! Neither can I!!!
So as not to disappoint...OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG, OMG,
OMG, O...M...G!!! Pierce was SO beautiful in this episode!!! I just don't
understand how that man continues to get better looking day after day after
day!!! (Don't understand it...But most appreciative!!!)
As always...Thanks for reading!
Xenos
Mamma Mia!!! Pierce Brosnan...Proof
that God loves us and wants us to be happy! |
by
auroracat-1 |
|
| Have to say that
this is one of my favorit episodes!
Most of what I love about it has
already been mentioned, so I will try to note some new things.
- Why doesn't Dangerous Darryl recognize
Mr. Steele when he is in his Harvey disguise from when Laura, Mildred and
Mr. Steele were watching Crunch and Darryl rehearsing?
- Love how Mildred, Laura & Mr.
Steele are counting down the ropes at the championship match.
- Love the whole parody of "professional"
wrestling and Soap Operas (Continuing Dramas:))
Pierce has his wedding band on in
the limo on the way to the studio to rescue Whitney.
The scene between Whitney and Mr.
Steele - "I love Crunch, Mr. Steele. Somehow I thought you would undestand"
The Professional vs. personal theme
carried out through the whole show. Mr. Steele & Laura, Crunch &
Whitney, Laura and Mr. Molinski., etc.
That's all I can think of for now.
GREAT ROMANCE!!!!! |
by
MickeyBoggs |
|
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The scene between Whitney and Mr.
Steele - "I love Crunch, Mr. Steele. Somehow I thought you would understand"
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I've got a version of the script
that seems to match up pretty well with what aired, but there was a bit
of that conversation left out:
Whitney: Don't know what a nice girl
like me is doing with a musclebound cartoon like Crunch?
Steele: I wouldn't have put it quite
like that...
W: I love him, Mr. Steele
(Steele holds her gaze, then turns
on the water. Whitney fills the pitcher.)
W: Louise Shotski.
S: What's that?
W: My real name. Louise Shotski.
You see, Crunch and I are a lot closer under the skin than it might seem.
He's hardly as dumb as the part the plays and I, Mr. Steele, am hardly
as smart...I don't know why I'm telling you this. Sometimes even I forget
who I am. Somehow I thought you'd understand.
It's interesting to me that a few
of the comments have made light of Crunch's intelligence. I always thought
he knew exactly what he was doing. Making a buck while he could. He'll
still have the college degree when his wrestling days are over. |
by
auroracat-1 |
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| With regards to
Crunch's motivation for wrestling - I agree. Remember he owned Darryl's
contract, etc. so he was obviously involved in the business end as well.
Having considered dance as a career
and having friends who are/were principal dancers with ABT and other companies,
I can tell you that when your first choice of career has an upper age limit
you go for it while you can. Business careers don't have such limitations. |
by
merryl |
|
| This wasn't one
of my favourite episodes, but in a really weird way, I've started to really
like it! Must be because I'm looking at it with new eyes, based on some
of the comments you ladies have made.
Firstly, I think Laura's hair was
fantastic - loved the way it was pulled up with tendrils escaping! She
looked really good throughout the episode - loved her blue-and-white top
in the tag scene as well. In fact, in a very strange way she even managed
to look sexy in those large red-rimmed glasses - obviously the director
thought so too! (Love how he sort of gives her a double-take)
And Pierce really cracks me up playing
the gay fan! What a performance - he had all the mannerisms, affectations,
etc - absolutely amazing - over the top, but SOOOO believable. He looked
totally different, and all that changed outwardly was a gap in his teeth...
How does he do that? It was so funny... and then him throwing the crystal
glass and his embarrassment - wow!!!
Loved the fact that they then immediately
switched to the "Laura as AFI intern" scene. So both Laura and Remington
had a bit of fun "playing dress-up" :-) (And I'm sure the actors appreciated
this as well - showing off their wonderful comedic talent).
Also an episode with two "kisses
interruptus" by Mildred! Maybe they should tie her to a bed and gag her
again.
Now, the *crunch* (sorry, couldn't
resist that). The dancing scene. Sorry, ladies, but it just doesn't do
anything for me. IMHO neither Stephanie or Pierce looked very relaxed in
this scene - it looked a bit stiff and "artificial". I'd like to think
it's because Laura was feeling a bit nervous because she'd decided to take
things further... Why not totally relax against Remington, perhaps rest
her head against his chest or something like that? The kiss was great,
but the dancing... (real pity - I was trying so hard to see what everyone
else saw!)
However, just loved the interplay
between Mildred and Remington. "I went home and did what you did..." and
the reply "I doubt that very much Mildred..." Well, if they did do what
we all wished/hoped they did, then they should have been VERY relaxed and
close during their dance :-)
Loved the tag scene - the almost
peremptory way they interacted. It makes one really confused, because it's
exactly the way lovers act...
|
by
merryl |
|
| Thank G*d for
fanfic, is what I say!!! Love the redux!!! |
by auroracat-1 |
|
| I didn't think
they were "tense" during the "dance" scene. I put it down to the fact that
they had to deliver dialog and their height difference. They were standing
right in front of each other rather than off set which is the normal dance
position.
Also, I agree with another poster
that Laura's French Braid was a bit up tight for a love scene, but I found
it totally fitting since they were coming from a wrestling match. |
by
Xenos1981 |
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| Mickey wrote:
"It's interesting to me that a few of the comments have made light of Crunch's
intelligence. I always thought he knew exactly what he was doing. Making
a buck while he could. He'll still have the college degree when his wrestling
days are over."
Thanks for calling me on that. I
guess I just find it hard to believe that a man who uses the word "zappo"
is intelligent. (Says the cum laude college graduate who uses the words
"freakin'" and "holy crap" in a most intelligent manner herself. Darn!
Hoisted by my own canard!) I'm also guilty of believing that most
athletes who went to college on a scholarship really didn't get an education.
It's terrible for me to say that...and probably grossly inaccurate. I shall
re-think my biases and assumptions.
Ms. Streep wrote: "Sorry, ladies,
but it [the candle-lit dance scene in Mr. Steele's apartment] just doesn't
do anything for me."
Oh, my!!! Seriously?! Look where
Laura's hands are...You know that as soon as she unclasps her hands, she's
grabbin' that incredibly tight tushy and workin' it!!! (That's what I would
do!!!) Oh-ho-ho, yeh-heh-hes!!!
Xenos
Mamma Mia!!! Pierce Brosnan...Proof
that God loves us and wants us to be happy!
|
by sugarjilly |
|
| Xenos!! Thanks
for mentioning the part about the location of Laura's hands cause you put
it so much more...well, more...LOL
That would be my take on the dance
scene!!! I thought they looked great together especially the hand placement!
Jilly
oh and btw...loving all the posts
so far!! |
by
everglade68 |
|
I re-watched this
ep just because of the excellent posts. The ep is not
as bad as I thought it was, as it
has some very funny moments.
I liked that Mildred had so many
good scenes. I can actually see her going to
watch wrestling and enjoying it.
PB looked as good as always here
and his scene as the water delivery man was
soooo great. Most of the time, I
do not give PB credit for his wonderful acting in RS.
Loved that Laura did not want Remington
to get the door when they were kissing.
How great is that, he should have
listened to her and let Mildred go and
save Whitney.
Merryl, I have to agree with your
assessment of the tag scene. "Because it's
exactly the way lovers act...",
so true and how can that be?
Isabel |
by
merryl |
|
| Now that I'm a
*lot* older (20-odd years - LOL!!!) and more *experienced* (well, maybe
slightly less naive) than when I watched the show in my late teens, I'm
just seeing so many more inconsistencies between how they act and how the
show panned out (re the "ultimate moment" happening in the last scene of
the last episode). I find it puzzling that they act SO much like lovers
and are so comfortable with each other - you only get like this with someone
you are VERY close to - like an old married couple. Maybe it's because
Pierce and Stephanie did have a lot of trust in each other and after 4-5
years working closely for long hours probably were like an old married
couple... Maybe it's just a result of many different writers having slightly
different approaches to their relationship... In one of the commentaries
I remember a debate about whether anything "happened" after tag scenes
where they were lying in front of the fire, kissing, etc, etc - one of
the writers said that they (the writers) sort of decided that nothing happened.
But the fact that the writers themselves were debating this shows that
it was open to interpretation. I just wish they'd kept it like that consistently
throughout the series - instead of them specifically referring to not having
experienced the "ultimate moment". I think if it had been left open-ended
it would have been much more enjoyable for us fans!!!!!
Also, don't know if this should be
a new thread (or has perhaps been debated before) - would the popularity
of the show have waned if it somehow became obvious that they HAD experienced
the "ultimate moment"? (I'm thinking of little clues like her makeup in
his bathroom, his clothes in her cupboard, them arriving together at the
office, etc, etc.) I honestly don't think so - I think the challenge wasn't
in maintaining interest after taking their relationship forward, but more
in maintaining the quality of the series - good writing, good comedic moments,
good mystery, some titillating/romantic moments. I think the series declined
BECAUSE they just stretched credibility to breaking point. |
by
everglade68 |
|
Merryl, you have
such great points. I would rather you switch your last
paragraph to a new thread so we
can discuss your first comments in this
SOTW thread.
Any yes, we probably have addressed
some of these views, but that doesn't mean we can't readdress them.
Isabel |
by
Xenos1981 |
|
ISABEL!!! "Most
of the time, I do not give PB credit for his wonderful acting in RS."
Have you learned NOTHING from me in all the time we've know each other?!?!
How often do I have to point out how great Pierce was in a scene before
you listen to me?!?! *shaking head in disbelief* Oh, Isabel!!!
A tongue-in-cheek Xenos
Mamma Mia!!! Pierce Brosnan...Proof
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