| SOTW:
Episode #01- License To Steele |
by pianoRose(Fri Sep 29 2006 07:29:30 ) |
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Well,I'm excited.
I never watched the series when it aired in the 80's. So I'm going to pretend
I haven't ever seen it before tonight. Having bought all the DVDs just
this summer I tend to jump around years based on my mood so I'm curious
to watch the shows in the order they aired. |
by Xenos1981 (Fri Sep 29 2006 08:54:03 ) |
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I think it'll
be fun going through the entire series from beginning to end! I tend to
jump around, too, and watch my favorites over and over. Sometimes I think
Red Holt Steele is going to wear out from so much viewing. Anyway, I'm
looking forward to 9:00pm!
Doing my little
happy dance now!
Xenos |
by lissa_erin14 (Fri Sep 29 2006 14:23:44 ) |
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Let the FUN
begin! |
by jrdedrick (Fri Sep 29 2006 16:52:55 ) |
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I can't wait!
LOL
Neeney |
by attagrrrl (Fri Sep 29 2006 21:30:08 ) |
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I can't believe
I'm the first one to post about LTS. I ended up not going out tonight after
all, so I watched around 9 as planned. I've always loved the episode. I'm
so glad they went back and made it instead of having Tempered Steele as
the first ep.
About the opening:
I realized that the reason Laura sounds different in this opening is that
she's whispering--because she's telling us a secret. I just got that.
Clothes report:
I'm loving Laura's hair and vintage outfits (I said I was going to pay
more attention, and I have a feeling I'm going to be broken record on loving
the hair and outfits in Season 1). I especially love the first shot of
her in the fedora, and the other business outfit with the little tie.
Best quotes:
"I keep trying for a good picture" (I always love those little quips Steele
makes when he has a gun pointed at him) and "I take it you want to drive."
Also loved "how did you become a dick?" and "do you pack a rod?" It's so
funny that he uses language from old Humphrey Bogart movies and thinks
it's current American English. Laura actually looks a little like she stepped
out of an old movie, so I can see how he might make the mistake.
The case: I
like how in Season 1 episodes the client's situation often has a parallel
with RS/Laura. In this case, the guy wanting to have his talents and efforts
recognized like Laura. The way she identifies with him is interesting.
Character development:
Laura--this woman is a little crazy. Instead of playing it safe and dropping
the client when he demands to see Steele, she decides to go for it. Also,
it's hilarious how intoxicated she is by a little adventure. Later in the
series she gets stereotyped as a bit of a straight arrow, but at the heart
of Laura's character is a thrill-seeking, risk-taking con artist.
Steele--I think
we can see from this first episode that Steele is already a detective of
sorts. The fact that he figures out Laura's ruse so easily shows how much
alike they are under the surface. I wish there had been more explanation
of why he decides to take on the persona of RS permanently.
Worsts of episode:
Can't think of any. This is rare for me not to find something negative
to say, but there's nothing that bothers me too much about the episode.
Well . . . I've always thought it is stupid how Bernice tries to flirt
with Steele by offering to make fresh water. What the hell does that mean?
She needs to work on her flirting techniques. But, who really cares about
Bernice?
Nagging question:
Do private investigators really get hired to provide security for precious
gems, famous paintings, etc.? The RS agency is constantly doing stuff like
that, but aren't there security companies that specialize in that sort
of thing, or is it also within the purview of a detective agency?
Final thoughts:
What a great start to the series. So witty, charming, clever, delightful.
Love it, love it, love it. |
by DCZinger (Sat Sep 30 2006 07:21:42 ) |
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Excellent
points, Attagirl.
We know that
Laura broke from her dictum of dropping a case if anyone insisted on meeting
Mr. Steele....however,the agency was in the RED. Too much overhead, not
enough business. I guess too many people wanted to meet Mr. Steele...so
Laura's scheme to drum up business by inventing a masculine superior wasn't
working THAT well.
This episode
was written and filmed AFTER the series was already sold...filmed in August
1982 as opposed to February 1982 when Tempered was filmed. They decided
to go back and film how Remington and Laura got together and start the
series from that point. Pierce is already looking starting to look tanner
in this episode. He's positively pale in Tempered Steele.
It was funny
to see Bernice offering to make "fresh water", when you know later on that
she acted like she loathed "Skeeziks". Remember, she offered to make some
"fresh water" was before she found out that Mr. Pearson was a FAKE. Loved
the look the two women exchanged behind Mr. Steele/ Pearson's back. What
changed Bernices attitude toward our Mr. Steele, I wonder? Was it because
by Tempered she was sufficiently annoyed at Mr. Steele's cavalier attitude
toward Laura, the agency, and Murphy? Too much overspending agency funds.
Too much irritating her dear friend Laura? Was it the fact that she figured
out that Laura was a goner? Better to act like you hate the guy than let
your friend know that you really wanted him for yourself.
Funny moments:
The shot of Steele opening the closets of clothes...first one side, the
the other. We see just his back, but we know that our mysterious Mr. Pearson
is stunned.
Great moment:
"Pleased to meet you, Mr. Steele."
Great moment:
Laura's stunned expression at the reveal of Mr. Steele.
Great moment:
Murphy's "I hate this Laura, I REALLY hate this". Again, one line shows
us who Murphy Michaels was. A guy who doesn't like to take risks.
Great moment:
Steele: "Because
you don't believe I killed Ben Pearson."
Murphy: "I
do."
Steele: "You
don't count "This is between Miss Holt and myself."
I don't see
HOW Murphy had a chance in HELL after this line. The show immediately becomes
a "duet" between Laura and Steele.
This episode
would have NEVER worked today...not in this day/age of Internet, Google
and so on. Laura would have had Mr. Pearson's picture looong before our
conman stepped off the plane.
Hate to disagree
with you on this, Attagrr is the One thing I DON't MISS about the 80's...the
floppy bow ties that women wore on their dress shirts. Blech. And I wasn't
too enamoured of Laura's red evening gown and hairdo. Says "PROM NIGHT"
to me. Sorry. I much rather liked her other evening looks....the black/silver
stapless gown with pearls in Woman of Steele. The white off the shoulder
Myrna Loy dress in Tempered. The dress with sequinned jacket in Etched.
I agree that
I wish there was more of an explanation of why Steele decided to forgo
the gems in San Fransisco and stay with the gem of a girl in LA. Various
fic deals with why...The challenge, being "smitten" with Laura, wanting
to stop running. But we never actually see that in the series...No wonder
Laura is wondering at what her Mr. Steele's motives are....we don't know
either! We get little dribs and drabs that he's there NOT just because
he likes playing detective (Steele Away with Me). In Sensitive, he admits
that he was a rolling stone and liked it that way, but "that all changed
the day I met you". Sigh.
The bigger
issue with Laura is NOT that she's a woman doing a mans job...no biggie
today. My take is that in the stills of her in her "Laura Holt Investigations"
office...she looks 16 years old. I would think a potential client would
look at her and think "Where's her daddy?".
I'm not sure
what PI firms were doing in the early 80's. Nowaday's we hire security
firms. We know that in later episodes, Laura would bid on various security
contracts. Is that where she wanted to go with Remington Steele Investigations?
I would think that they'd make a killing in the recovery business.
DCZinger
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by pianoRose (Sat Sep 30 2006 08:09:54 ) |
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attagrrrl
and zinger your analysis is excellent!
You're not
going to believe this, because i didn't, but I'd never seen this episode
before last night! As the show started I kept thinking any minute now it
will come to me. What a treat to see a virgin episode! LOL (I watched RS
when it was on PAX but I know I didn't watch everyday and I don't even
think I started watching until it had already been on for a bit. When I
bought the DVDs this summer I didn't watch season 1 but started with the
later ones I remembered.)Now I am really anticipating the show for next
friday. I don't think I've seen tempered Steele either.
So having seen
LTS for the first time I have to say I ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT!LOVED IT! LOVED
IT!
I watched it
3 times! I was actually going to take notes of my faves the 3rd viewing
but I didn't want to spoil my watching. I am glad they made this the first
episode(But not having seen Tempered Steele--maybe i'll think diferently
next week--but it seems a natural to set up how Steele comes into her life--they
did it beautifully).
Anyway, I want
to share my impression as one who hadn't seen it before BUT I have to leave
right now. I'll be back this afternoon for some uninterupted posting! |
by attagrrrl (Sat Sep 30 2006 08:51:40 ) |
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PianoRose,
how lucky you are to get to see eps you have never seen before! I envy
you. LTS is one of the episodes I had on VHS before the dvds came out,
so I have seen it countless times.
Zinger, I agree
on the evening dress. Too "made up" for me. To me the little tie didn't
scream 80s, but an earlier era. But I'm not known for my knowledge of fashion.
Laura never
strikes me as looking that young. She just seems older than her age somehow.
As a teacher, I guess I have a very different image of what "youth" looks
like.
My take on
Bernice is that she doesn't like Mr. Steele for pretty much the same reasons
as Murphy. When she first meets him as Ben Pearson, she flirts because
he's a sexy guy, but once she gets to know him she sees him as a guy who
is taking advantage of Laura, who can't be trusted. He is so dismissive
of her that he can't even remember her correct name, and this dismissiveness
(Bernice thinks) reflects his lack of respect for the agency in general
and her personally. He's getting what he can out of Laura and the agency
and will then leave them all in the lurch. There's also a little jealousy
there because he's interested in Laura, not her. Not that she's in love
with him, but she's probably just used to getting more attention from men
who come into the office than Laura, but Mr. Steele expresses no interest
in her at all. From a story-telling point of view it's also better to have
Steele in a hostile environment where Laura stands out as the only one
who believes in him.
Okay, where
is everybody else? Come out! Come out! |
by Xenos1981 (Sat Sep 30 2006 11:39:44 ) |
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I just popped
in to say that I'll have to post later tonight. Sorry, guys! Family commitments.
I LOVE what I've read so far. Keep 'em coming. I'll be back later...PROMISE!
Xenos |
by attagrrrl (Sat Sep 30 2006 12:12:55 ) |
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Hmmm. I must
be the only one who has to work at her computer on Saturday.
Earlier I also
meant to second Zinger's praise of the line "You don't count. This is between
Miss Holt and me." Yep, that pretty much sums up the show, especially the
first season. I think that's why I like Mildred more as a sidekick because
for some reason she seems to "count" whereas Murphy and Bernice never do.
I suspect there are some Murphy and Bernice fans who would disagree, though. |
by pianoRose(Sat Sep 30 2006 14:07:02 ) |
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Ok, I'm back.
Hopefully, I won't get interrupted. Forgive me if I rattle on too much
but I really enjoyed this episode and I'm not sure where to start...so
I'll start near the beginning.
Love Laura's
big smile to Bernice after Special Agent Pearson (PB) leaves the office.
Laura may be a clever and tough woman who opened her own agency but she's
still a girl who appreciates a good looking man. She's not completely all
business.
In the scene
where the PB walks into his room to find the 2 bad guys waiting for him
and they're wondering why he's always in the same place and he says "perhap
we have the same travel agent". Those clever little lines seem typical
of the lines they always have on RS when the moment is perilous. I like
those moments. That they found his passports didn't seem like an icebox
question to me for some reason (although it did when Keys found them in
Steele's sweater drawer).
The sequence
between Hunter and Laura where he asks her if she's ever had a dream? He
tells her of efforts to succeed--3 hours of sleep, etc is somewhat like
her efforts to apprentice and succeed as a detective.She says ..."I'm risking
everything I have." I love scenes where what someone else is talking about
mirrors Laura's (or Steele's)experiences or thoughts. This scene also made
me realize that it's not just a career but dreams for Laura thus I care
more about how it's going to turn out.
Oh, I liked
the champagne scene! How PB walks over to Laura's table. Oh, la,la! Loved
these lines... "you look thirsty". "only when I'm aroused...(with curiosity)."
When she's explaining her career choice and says "I always loved excitement."
and he asks "Did it fulfill your fantasies?" Somehow I don't think he expects
her to say yes. Then at end of the conversation Laura says "few would be
foolish enough to try" to fill Steele's shoes. he looks right at her and
says "unless of course one enjoys impossible challenges." Laura pauses
for a second at that. He's telling her he likes impossible challenges.
But I don't see this as the point where their connection is made.
Ok, I have
to take a break. I'll be back.
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by pianoRose(Sat Sep 30 2006 14:56:14 ) |
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ok. I loved
the whole scene where Hunter points out Steele to Laura. PB's facial expressions
as he thinks he's about to be found out are great.
I thought PB's
expression when Hunter says he wants both of them at the airport was funny.
It was a look of being stuck in an inevitable situation. When Laura in
the car asks what did Hunter say and he says "he wants us both at the airport"
for some reason made me laugh. While in the car Laura says to PB "you're
the only one I can turn to"--the whole scene made me realize she has some
vulnerablity--otherwise why is she willing to trust this guy. I'm not sure
from this scene if he understands why she needs him but he's willing to
play it out.
Love the brief
moment when he's staring at Murphy bringing in the laundry cart (with the
gems) when they return to the hotel. He knows the gems are in the cart.
Wonder what is he thinking at that moment?
The elevator
scene with Hunter was good--adds more to the question of Steele's existence.
"I was beginning to think you didn't exist." "Plenty of Miss Holt...none
of you."
The maid just
lets him into the penthouse?? Not these days for sure. I lost my hotel
key and had to show my driver's license to get another. I wasn't renting
hotel rooms in the 80's so I don't know about it then.
6 to 8 pieces
of luggage? For overnight? A closet full of clothes for 1 night?
(Was there
a tux in there?)
When he stares
into the mirror and says "Pleasure to meet you Mr. Steele." I wondered
is this the moment he decides to assume the name? But no, I decided that's
not it, though he knows now it's a hoax.
Of course,
the whole party scene. Terrific. I love seeing them walk into the party
together. Glad to see there must have been a tux in the closet! I liked
the hair and red dress. Loved the whole scene. Hunter is talking...Laura's
smiling and PB looks like he may be ill any moment. At the podium he does
introduce Laura...so he does have some redeeming qualites...he didn't just
bask in the limelight. If he was totally awful he would have taken the
credit.
Loved the dance
scene. (Notice the people around them looking as she yells at him.) I like
seeing them dance :) The whole dialogue from Steele I enjoyed. "soles never
seemed to have touched the ground", "bald,too"
"You invented
him". I think this is the first time he calls her Laura.
The after party
scene with Hunter and he says "dreams aren't all they're cracked up to
be" and she agrees. I wondered what dreams is she thinking of? This job
or her Steele or the good looking stranger(PB) ?
Back in the
penthouse Steele explains to Murphy and Laura that for a modest commission
he intended to return the gems. Should I believe him? I wonder.
Love the next
part of this scene with Steele and Laura discussing calling the police
as if Murphy's not even there; in fact he moves away from Laura and the
screen fills with Steele and Laura face to face. One of my Favorite lines
is to Murphy "You don't count" and "This is between Miss Holt and myself".
And then he called her Laura again. There --for me that's when the connection
was made.
In the penthouse,
after the police leave and Murphy asks Laura if she'll be alright and then
closes the door. Steele is in front of the door and half turned towards
Laura. Oh, I had to put it on pause. Yummy!
Loved it when
he says "...I might relish the role on a permanent basis..." and "after
all, I'm a man who enjoys impossible challenges..." What is the challenge--
at first I thought it was being Steele but is it really wooing Laura?
At the airport
when she runs up to him and realizes he's not the thief and he says "Laura,
I gave you my word." That seemed significant to me--it seemed a glimpse
of the real man the way he said it.
And then the
ending scene. Wouldn't you just love to open an office door and find him
sitting behind a desk??
And Steele
says "suddenly there wasn't anything for me to do up there..."
I guess the
thrill of getting the gems didn't seem that important...hummmm
I can't wait
for next week!
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by Xenos1981(Sat Sep 30 2006 17:00:49 ) |
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Oh, ladies...I
loved all of your posts! Nice analysis by you all. I'll tell you about
a few things that struck me...
First -- I
have to get the silly stuff out of the way first -- did anyone else have
a flashback to "PeeWee's Big Adventure" when the lady in the monkey grinder
suite was paging Remington Steele in the hotel? I kept visualizing PeeWee
in that same outfit paging himself. OK, I'm done. Just had to get that
off my chest. Forgive me.
Seriously,
though...The first thing that really grabbed me was the incredible chemistry
between Laura and "Ben/Remington". It was instantaneous and so palpable!
Dang, they were hot! They played off each other so well -- their timing
was impeccable, the dialog was witty and I totally bought the almost immediate
love/hate relationship (though "hate" isn't exactly the correct word).
It was the best pilot/first episode of any show I've seen. Loved how the
other relationships were set up also between Laura and Murphy, and Remington
and Murphy. (The dialog has been posted before, so I won't bother re-posting
it. You know the scenes, though.) Bernice was a hoot and I'm so glad "Ben/Remington"
started calling her Miss Wolf right away.
As long as
it was brought up, I have to say that I always thought our mysterious con
man became Remington and didn't go after the Royale Lavulite in SanFrancisco
because of Laura. I didn't realize some people thought otherwise. I saw
"Ben/Remington" as a guy who did what he wanted to do when he wanted to
do it...and, well, he decided he wanted to do Laura! Heh-heh-heh! I think
she intrigued him with her con (creating a fictitious boss) and he wanted
to get to know her better. Who knows, maybe he had ADD and just lost interest
in the gems. LOL!
To answer Zinger's
question (I think it was Zinger's question) about detective agencies doing
security...Yes, they do. My husband's PI firm did security for banks, groceries
stores and bars. Of course, they did a lot more than just security, but
security was definitely part of the job. (My favorite -- and my husband's
least favorite -- was when he had to go undercover at a gay bar. Laughed
my butt off! The hubby got so mad, he hit me with his "man bag"! Hee-Heeeee!!!
But that's another story all together!)
Wardrobe. Pierce
and James looked great -- their wardrobe spoke volumes about their characters!
Not terribly impressed with Stephanie's, though. (Although I love her classic
suits, which I've probably stated too many times already.) Her evening
dress looked like a tulip swallowed her up! Almost as bad as the Tempered
Steele outfit. I take that back. Actually, I think the red dress was WORSE
than the Tempered outfit. I also don't like bows and ruffles -- they made
her look dowy.
Favorite Scenes.
Too many to name, so I'll just hit a few...The scene between Laura and
Remington at the banquet dinner right up through the dance. DANG!!! The
way he kept her from exploding and causing a scene, and her giving in to
his charms - *sigh*. The scene where "Ben" visits the Steele Agency. After
he leaves, the look on Laura's face is PRICELESS! (That could be a MasterCard
commercial!) The goodbye scene where "Ben/Remington" kisses Laura on the
hand! OMG! Is it hot in here?!?! Whoosh, baby!
Total score:
10 out of 10...Awesome beginning for an awesome show!!! |
by lissa_erin14 (Sat Sep 30 2006 17:27:14 ) |
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My two cents
along with everyone else's...
My favorite
scene is the dance and revelation. She just looks at him and can't look
away. Such power. You know she's completely gone from that moment on. She's
hooked and she'll never be the same again.
What is it
about this woman that he completely ditches his goals and goes for the
girl? What is it about Laura that causes his 180 switch? Was stealing jewels
no longer an impossible challenge that he enjoyed? Wasn't the thrill there
anymore?
Five passport
pictures...$500
Office space...$5,000
One fateful
meeting,
And the look
that changed it all...Priceless
You never
know when fate interrupts.
For everything
else there's MasterCard.
(Can be easily
stored in a man bag ) |
by pianoRose (Sat Sep 30 2006 17:38:39 ) |
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lissa --loved
the mastercard verse! |
by DCZinger(Sat Sep 30 2006 17:46:54 ) |
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Lissa...were
you in the Steelewatcher's Chat last month when we got on that subject?
DCZinger |
by badgerbacker88(Sat Sep 30 2006 18:40:07 ) |
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Sorry I'm
late in posting this. I watched it with the commentary on by Mike Gleason
and Robert Butler. I think I might try to watch every episode twice one
with the commentary on and another time without. One of the first things
they talk about is Laura and the fedora hat. They mention that they had
almost everybody wearing the fedora hat but re-shot the scenes over so
that only Laura and the villians were wearing hats. Both Mike & Robert
said good things about the entire cast. Some movie trivia that wasn't mentioned
in the commentary was that James Read (Murphy) & Philip Casnov (Ben
Pearson) were both in the mini-series "North And South" together. The commentary
also mentioned, which I agree with, is Murphy's jealousy of Remington Steele
because he knows he can't compete and you have this sort of "love triangle"
thing
going on that would continue throughout Season 1. The commentary also includes
all of the low budget stuff that they had to do for instance when they
are both in the limo and they look outside the back window you only see
one car (what happened to the rest of the traffic?). Mike & Robert
also comment that a dectective probably wouldn't be following you in a
limo. I liked this episode and so far I've enjoyed the series and I think
it was worth the money to buy the dvd's. |
by jrdedrick
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You all seem
to have covered everything very well. I absolutely love this episode too.
Its a great start to the series. It hard to believe that it was done after
Tempered Steele though because I think Laura/SZ looks a lot younger in
License than she does later. But what do I know? LOL
I liked the
red dress but not that black THING that went around it. Was that a belt
or part of the dress?
And I loved
the phone in the limo. Rotary dial phones.....those were the days!!! ROFL!
Neeney |
by attagrrrl(Sat Sep 30 2006 19:31:29 ) |
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Regarding
why "Steele" decides to stay, I have always assumed that his line at the
end about San Francisco--"suddenly there was nothing for me to do up there"--meant
that the gems didn't go to San Francisco at all, and he literally had nothing
to do up there. But now that I think about it, it's silly to take the line
at face value like that.
Aside from
wanting to do Laura or even being intrigued by her, I've always assumed
there was a lot more to his desire to stay and be Remington Steele. There
are so many advantages that he gets out of the arrangement, but since the
show is mostly from Laura's perspective and he remains a mystery man, we
have to guess about his motivations. My guesses are these: On the most
shallow level, it's a job that provides him with a very good life. He seems
to be doing fine as a con man, but for someone who has lived on the street,
a stable life with silk shirts, a limo, fine dining, etc. would probably
have its appeal. More important, though, is the prestige. For someone with
a shady past, the idea of being admired and respected, renowned even, would
be very seductive. Who doesn't dream of that kind of recognition? But most
importantly, the challenge of living up to Laura's idea of Remington Steele.
He is really attracted to the idea of being a good man, the kind that Laura
would speak of in the glowing terms she uses to describe Mr.Steele. In
Elegy in Steele he says something about not wanting to lose his life just
when he's starting to make something of it. In LTS he implies that he would
relish the impossible challenge of living up to the ideal image of Remington
Steele. So I think part of his motivation for staying is that he sees this
as an opportunity to make something of himself.
Or, maybe he
just wants to get in Laura's pants. We never really know. |
by picac(Sat Sep 30 2006 22:20:02 ) |
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I think at
first it was the challenge of Laura and that he may have just been bored
and was looking for a new experience. ;) We find out later that's he's
prospected for gold in the Yucatan, boxed his way though South America,
was a smuggler on the Riviera, had a spot of Commercial Art training, swallowed
fire and did trapeze in a circus as well as being a world class jewel and
art thief and conman who played Chemin de Fer with bonde barracudas and
cavorted in helicopters with Countesses. And all by age 28/29. As he says
in Steele Your Heart Away, he's lead quite the life for a man of
his age. ;-)
The money he
could have made off of $2.5 million in Royal Lavulite, even if he just
took a 10% finder's fee is more than anything he'd get as Steele living
the good life for over a year. Heck by Tempered he's making and
winning $50,000 bets. The Steele agency provided a very nice lifestyle
but nothing he couldn't attain financially with much more ease. We see
the man break into museums and the Federal Reserve Bank with the greatest
of skill. I don't think living on the street was in his immeadiate future
if he hadn't become Steele. And he probably would have been able to buy
a boat without bouncing a check. ;-)
I think he
liked the idea of playing detective, or just slipping into a new skin and
lifestyle and getting close to Laura was a large facet of that skin. I
don't think he planned to stay that long doing it but as time passed he
not only became more hooked on the reality of Laura and not just the challenge
of her but came to like the career and it's accompishments as well as the
respectability and adulation. The longer he stayed the more entrenched
he became and he liked having that name, identity, and a more stable but
still adventurous lifestyle -- and of course Laura.
As for the
epsiode, most of the great bits have been mentioned -- the first meeting,
Steele on his knees and quipping, the Tea & Sympathy scene etc -- so
I'll just give a couple of little ones. I love the way he loses the tail
with the story of the stolen car and the gilding of the lily with the sick
grandmother and the easy charm -- and how Laura looks so appreciative of
his on the fly con. I like to think of it as a spark of recognition of
one game player to another. And that little slap he gives her hand as she
trying to undo his chain in his hotel room never fails to put a smile on
my face because it's such a casually familiar almost intimate thing. I
love that entire ending hotel scene with them, his first turn into the
room, the way he kisses her hand, the way you can see her wanting to ask
him to stay and how he leaves without looking back.
There's also
a very funny bit when she's trying to charge away from the table after
calling him a cut rate comnman -- her arms are pumping and it's the most
unfeminine and graceless movement I've ever seen her make as Laura. Though
it rather matches her earlier almost crass line reading of "great publicity".
In both instances it almost seems as if Laura's prim ladylike facade is
slipping -- first under her excitement of finally getting her due and then
under her anger and fear.
Her voice is
definitely noticibly deeper and raspier in this episode than any other.
It's an interesting vocal choice and I still wonder why she made it, if
maybe she was consciously trying something new from Tempered but then changed
her mind again of if the brass didn't like it and that's why she went back
to her more normal vocal register.
Fashion: The
outfit he's wearing to impersonate Pearson -- very Roger Moore safari look.
Aiiiyyee. I much prefer his white shirt with the pattern at the start.
But he really knows how to wear a tux, even with the slightly too big 80s
bowtie. LOL on Laura looking like she was swallowed by a tulip on her way
to the prom. She does. :D I'm not sure any of her blouses or suits here
are her best ones, even from Saeson One. Her look here is very tweedy/
librarian/ collegiate. Her best look in the entire episode IMO is the last
with that turtle neck and white sweater coat. It's softer, more form fitting
-- it's flattering and timeless.
Oh you've got
to love that Steel travels with a movie book as well as all 5 of his passports.
He certainly doesn't pack light. I wonder if he brought his scrapbooks
of burglaries along as well. :D |
by DCZinger(Sun Oct 1 2006 07:48:35 ) |
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About the
black sash thingy on Laura's Swallowed a Tulip on the way to the Prom dress...
Yeah..it's part of the esemble...You have the red strapless ballgown, with
the black sash accented by the red ribbon cutting through it. Later, in
"Harry's" room while finding his passports, Laura wears a black dress jacket
over the whole thing. Very early 80's.
Having worked
in the hotel industry from the late 80's to 2003...I can tell you that
even in the late 80's we were trained to NEVER let a guest into his hotel
room on just another guests sayso. But I could see that a hotel maid WOULD,
if she knew Mr. Hunter as the HUGE honcho whose responsible for the big
shindig down in the ballroom, and thus a very important guest not to piss
off. That is something that would have been covered in a staff meeting.
Know who your guests are, and definitely KNOW who the people who are spending
wads of cash in your hotel! The maid, recognizing Mr. Hunter, would NOT
anger their top guest by asking the man he was with, supposedly the great
detective doing security for the event, Mr. Steele, for ID.
Later on in
the series, we see Laura gain access to hotel rooms in ways that NEVER
would have happened in the late 80's, 90's and CERTAINLY NOT after 9/11.
DCZinger |
by pianoRose (Sun Oct 1 2006 10:40:26 ) |
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"Oh you've
got to love that Steel travels with a movie book as well as all 5 of his
passports. He certainly doesn't pack light. I wonder if he brought his
scrapbooks of burglaries along as well. "
Good point!
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by Xenos1981 (Sun Oct 1 2006 16:18:49 ) |
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Let's hope
Laura's fictitious Mr. Steele is the same size as her new Mr. Steele incarnate...It'd
be a shame to have all those gorgeous clothes and shoes go to waste! ![[wink]](wink.gif) |
by lissa_erin14 (Sun Oct 1 2006 18:26:52 ) |
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Oh icebox
question!
I meant have
been in the chat, but I dont remember. |
by picac(Sun Oct 1 2006 18:44:19 ) |
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Well if they
hadn't been used yet I'm sure she could return and exchange them. I'd imagine
the newly minted Steele had his own tastes and might not like to wear the
clothes Laura and Murphy might have picked out for him. Just look what
happens in Steele Hearts when Laura chooses his golf ensemble! :D |
by DCZinger(Sun Oct 1 2006 19:32:04 ) |
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LOL, Ace:
From Hearts of Steele:
Laura: "Aw,
c'mon, Where's your sense of humor?"
Steele (referring
to his plaid golf pants): "I'm wearing it."
I'm willing
to bet our dear Mr. Michaels picked out those pants (Plaid IS Murphy's
forte), and Steele got his revenge by putting Murphy in that ridiculous
clown suit in "Steele's Gold".
Funny, Pierce
is the ONLY man alive who could make plaid golf pants look good.
DCZinger |
by Xenos1981(Sun Oct 1 2006 20:45:15 ) |
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Funny, Pierce
is the ONLY man alive who could make plaid golf pants look good.
Heh-heh-heh, Zinger...A
woman after my own taste! Is there ANYTHING that man can't wear well (besides
Speedos, LOL!)?!?! |
by jrdedrick
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Never seen
him in a speedo. Do I wanna? LOL
Neeney |
by Xenos1981 (Mon Oct 2 2006 05:55:23 ) |
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Neeney, NO
ONE looks good in a Speedo! |
by deadlyjames007(Mon Oct 2 2006 07:58:07 ) |
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I think Pierce
had on Speedos in The long good friday and loohed yummy :-) |
by Xenos1981 (Mon Oct 2 2006 08:51:16 ) |
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| OK,
maybe I'll change my mind. I'll rent it! By the way, welcome, deadlyjames007!
Feel free to jump in and chat any time! |
by DCZinger(Mon Oct 2 2006 10:29:38 ) |
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| Xenos...on
picac's excellent Pierce site there is the clips from the Long Good Friday.
Pierces part isn't very big...it's his first film role. But he's deadly
good in it.
DCZinger |
by picac(Mon Oct 2 2006 11:05:45 ) |
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Here's the
link to the Multi-Media page
http://mbe8.tripod.com/media.html
Scroll to the
bottom of the page for the LGF clip (taken from the DVD doc)
In Long
Good Friday he does indeed wear a speedo, and he supposed to look good
because he's bait. ;)
In The Matador
where it's often said he's wearing a speedo he's not, it's just black underwear
-- which makes the entire scene of him in boots, with sunglasses, cigarette
and chugging a beer (looking as one reviewer said like a rockstar gone
to hell) on the way to the pool through the lobby of a swanky hotel even
funnier. |
by Xenos1981(Mon Oct 2 2006 15:15:28 ) |
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| Thanks,
Zinger and Picac! Going there now! I have seen the black underwear scene
in The Matador. Laughed my butt off! And what exactly is he bait
for in Long Good Friday?!?! |
by Xenos1981(Mon Oct 2 2006 16:46:26 ) |
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| OK,
saw the clip. May I just say once again, Picac, your PB site is AWESOME!!!
Love, love, LOVE it!!! Now, let me just say this about Speedos...Still
don't like 'em. HOWEVER...if someone has to wear one, Pierce would be the
guy! I didn't cringe once. In fact, I rather enjoyed it! Yes, it was a
rather pleasurable experience. I may even watch it again. |
by jrdedrick
(Mon Oct 2 2006 20:40:06 ) |
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{{Neeney,
NO ONE looks good in a Speedo!}}
NO ONE huh?
LOL Yup speedos are scary!
Neeney |
by everglade68(Mon Oct 30 2006 16:39:08 ) |
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Better late
than never, here is my post on LTS.
"License to
Steele" is a brilliant pilot episode for it sets the stage for future episodes.
As written by Michael Gleason, we are given a taste as to what the show
will become in its first season.
He starts off
by giving us fantastic one liners by RS. There are too many to write about,
but some of my favorites were "only when I am aroused...with curiosity"
"I enjoy impossible challenges" and "I take it you wanted to drive".
Laura's physical
attraction for RS is obvious in their first scene together at the office,
only she thinks he is Ben Pearson. As he leaves the office, she gives Bernice
a great look that reads, isn't he gorgeous.
Murphy's place
in the show is set in the opening scene where he is already doing the heavy
work. He suspects, rightly so, that laura is attracted to RS by saying
lines like, "he sure got a lot for his lousy bottle of champagne" and
"I hope it
is only the agency you are trying to protect".
I loved the
clothes RS wears, but he looks great in anything. In fact, when he is introduced
as RS and gives his speech he ends it with "there are far more interesting
things to look at than me", and I am thinking, he's got to be kidding.
I hated the
bow on Laura's business suit, but the red dress was nice.
I noticed for
the first time that RS starts to call Laura by her first name while they
are dancing and that we have our first movie quote in this episode. Like
I said the stage is set. |
by Xenos1981 (Mon Oct 30 2006 20:10:05 ) |
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I loved the
clothes RS wears, but he looks great in anything. In fact, when he is introduced
as RS and gives his speech he ends it with "there are far more interesting
things to look at than me", and I am thinking, he's got to be kidding.
LOL, Isabel! There
really is nothing better to look at than Pierce Brosnan, eh?!?!
Xenos |
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